I love your beadyness on where the newly trained tribunal members will come from. As you suggest, it's obviously going to be a re-badging operation with the same public servants doing essentially the same stuff while hoping the cunning plan will make it harder for the courts to intervene. What could possibly go wrong?
Watching BBC News tonight and hearing Nigel Farage talk about asylum seekers and putting the people smugglers out of business. Perhaps he should be researching how Howard’s plan to do the same thing blew up.
For doesn't reason I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that no matter how little housing, money, food, water, no matter how few jobs, school places the boats won't be smashed. The asylum seekers will not be removed. And the longer they stay, the more children they have, the more power they will yield.
Don't get me wrong! I'd be fine with that if I knew that I'd be welcomed as an equal in the countries they hail from. I wouldn't be. Im Jewish for a start, and female, and past my childbearing years. I'm also mouthy and not wearing a hijab or anything else dictated by long haired men in pyjamas.
They are determined to convert the world and anyone who doesn't realise that needs an intensive wake up call.
Thank you as ever, Joshua; I suppose that the feature of the granting of interim relief had had me musing, but 1. the District Council’s -yes, technical- point is scarcely fanciful and how else to have the issue raised litigated rather than drift into being otiose; 2. the Judge’s finding of lack of standing for Central Government is at the very least understandable; 3. an opposition’s self interested calculation that they are on to something with immigration and asylum concerns is predictable; and 4. it can by no means in no way follow that the point being aired in Epping necessarily has any relevance elsewhere.
As to the announcement over radical asylum processing changes, I fear we may be sliding into territory where the independence, calibre and TRAINING/monitoring of the envisaged tribunals or whatever the title is all too likely to be of the light dusting and/or even token variety. Otherwise why not call a spade a spade?
Australia had a major problem with asylum seekers during when John Howard was Prime Minister. (He was PM from 1996 to 2007, when a Labour Government was elected.)
Asylum seekers were coming by boat from Indonesia. My recollection is that Howard wanted to send a strong message to people smugglers who were profiting from their plight by selling them passage on the boats. So, in about 2001 Howard introduced a 'turn back the boats' policy with the intention that over time asylum seekers would learn that it was useless to pay people smugglers, so they wouldn't do so and the boats would stop coming. Turning back the boats caused a major political scandal so this approach was abandoned.
Next, the Australian Government established offshore facilities for asylum seeker detention while their applications for asylum were being processed. That cause a different major political scandal. Over time, these facilities were closed down. What happens now, I don't know, not least because I left Australia many years ago and no longer follow what's happening there.
I love your beadyness on where the newly trained tribunal members will come from. As you suggest, it's obviously going to be a re-badging operation with the same public servants doing essentially the same stuff while hoping the cunning plan will make it harder for the courts to intervene. What could possibly go wrong?
Watching BBC News tonight and hearing Nigel Farage talk about asylum seekers and putting the people smugglers out of business. Perhaps he should be researching how Howard’s plan to do the same thing blew up.
For doesn't reason I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that no matter how little housing, money, food, water, no matter how few jobs, school places the boats won't be smashed. The asylum seekers will not be removed. And the longer they stay, the more children they have, the more power they will yield.
Don't get me wrong! I'd be fine with that if I knew that I'd be welcomed as an equal in the countries they hail from. I wouldn't be. Im Jewish for a start, and female, and past my childbearing years. I'm also mouthy and not wearing a hijab or anything else dictated by long haired men in pyjamas.
They are determined to convert the world and anyone who doesn't realise that needs an intensive wake up call.
Thank you as ever, Joshua; I suppose that the feature of the granting of interim relief had had me musing, but 1. the District Council’s -yes, technical- point is scarcely fanciful and how else to have the issue raised litigated rather than drift into being otiose; 2. the Judge’s finding of lack of standing for Central Government is at the very least understandable; 3. an opposition’s self interested calculation that they are on to something with immigration and asylum concerns is predictable; and 4. it can by no means in no way follow that the point being aired in Epping necessarily has any relevance elsewhere.
As to the announcement over radical asylum processing changes, I fear we may be sliding into territory where the independence, calibre and TRAINING/monitoring of the envisaged tribunals or whatever the title is all too likely to be of the light dusting and/or even token variety. Otherwise why not call a spade a spade?
Australia had a major problem with asylum seekers during when John Howard was Prime Minister. (He was PM from 1996 to 2007, when a Labour Government was elected.)
Asylum seekers were coming by boat from Indonesia. My recollection is that Howard wanted to send a strong message to people smugglers who were profiting from their plight by selling them passage on the boats. So, in about 2001 Howard introduced a 'turn back the boats' policy with the intention that over time asylum seekers would learn that it was useless to pay people smugglers, so they wouldn't do so and the boats would stop coming. Turning back the boats caused a major political scandal so this approach was abandoned.
Next, the Australian Government established offshore facilities for asylum seeker detention while their applications for asylum were being processed. That cause a different major political scandal. Over time, these facilities were closed down. What happens now, I don't know, not least because I left Australia many years ago and no longer follow what's happening there.